Over the last several years, Caitlyn Jenner has been in the news regularly. When he was facing an election recall, she even made a splash in American politics when she tried to unseat California Governor Gavin Newsome. Now, Jenner has addressed her contentious relationship with talk show host Ellen DeGeneres, which dates back to a conversation they had during an interview held back in 2015.

In an interview with “Big Brother VIP” in Australia, Kim Kardashian West said she despises Ellen DeGeneres. She was eager to talk about how she vents against Ellen and her show on a regular basis. Jenner explained that DeGeneres “never” tried to contact or apologize after their contentious TV discussion from six years ago during her appearance on “Keeping Up With the Kardashians.”

For those unfamiliar, Jenner made a special guest appearance on DeGeneres’s show in 2015, shortly after she announced her transition from male to female. Jenner wanted her appearance on Ellen’s program to help advance her cause, but it had the opposite result.

In a recent tell-all book, Bruce Jenner claims that Ellen DeGeneres opened the interview by asking “normal questions.” The transgender champion was an outspoken opponent of same-sex marriage despite being an LGBTQ member, which would be affected by the new legislation.

“So I try to do my best, and I thought I did OK. But looking back on it, I could’ve handled a couple of things a little bit differently. Because I didn’t think [Ellen] would respond the way she did,” Caitlyn recalled.

“And then she goes to me, ‘Well, it sounds like you’re really not for it.’ And I said, ‘No, I just said I’m for gay marriage.’ The next week, she goes on Howard Stern’s show… and says I was against gay marriage and absolutely burnt my ass. And so, in the media, I got really tough on her.”

Jenner’s interview enraged her so much that she effectively prohibited the Kardashian family from appearing on Ellen. She even considered phoning Kris Jenner, asking for her support not to send any of the Kardashian children onto the show.

“But I didn’t (call Kris). I thought, ‘I don’t want to get involved in that,’” she said.

Despite being a transgender figure, Jenner described herself as “a traditionalist” when it came to marriage during the 2015 interview.

“I’m older than most people in the audience. I kind of like tradition, and it’s always been a man and a woman, and I’m thinking ‘I don’t quite get it,’” she said six years ago, going on to add that her stance changed over time to that of, “I don’t ever want to stand in front of anybody’s happiness.’”

In 2018, Jenner addressed her views on gay marriage after joining the LGBTQ+ community and how the movement has evolved over time.

“I think the transgender community, they have been so oppressed for so many years. We get death threats. We get all kinds of things happening to us,” Jenner said in an interview. “I think it is important if you are in the spotlight like I was at one time. I had to be a little careful about what I said. But now with this movement, people speaking their minds and speaking for themselves, using their voice … everybody seems more open-minded.”