Tensions erupted on the set of Fox News’ *The Five* recently as co-hosts Greg Gutfeld and Jessica Tarlov clashed in a heated debate over the state of the U.S. economy under former President Donald Trump versus the Biden-Harris administration. The exchange, which quickly turned into a shouting match, highlighted the stark contrast in perspectives between the two, with Gutfeld firmly standing his ground against what he deemed as misleading economic narratives from the left.
The disagreement began when co-host Jeanine Pirro posed a direct question to Gutfeld, asking if he agreed with Tarlov’s glowing assessment of the Biden economy. True to form, Gutfeld didn’t mince words. “No. I mean, I don’t believe it. I mean, all that stuff you just said,” he shot back, dismissing Tarlov’s claims with his characteristic bluntness. Tarlov, clearly irked, interrupted, “Like, all the facts,” doubling down on her argument that the economy has fared better under Biden.
But Gutfeld, always ready to defend the achievements of the Trump administration, wasn’t having it. He pointed out that under Trump’s leadership, the nation experienced historically low unemployment rates—a feat that he argued was unmatched by the current administration. “No, it’s like you talked about, like, the historical low unemployment. That was under Trump,” Gutfeld asserted. Tarlov, unwilling to concede, immediately countered, leading to a back-and-forth of “no it wasn’t” and “yes it was,” with Gutfeld finally quipping, “I can do this all day.”
The exchange highlighted a broader issue—how facts and statistics can be spun to fit different narratives, depending on one’s political agenda. Gutfeld’s stance resonates with many who feel that the mainstream media often downplays Trump’s economic successes while giving undue credit to Biden for an economy that has faced significant challenges, including inflation and skyrocketing energy prices.
This isn’t the first time Tarlov has found herself at odds with her co-hosts. Just recently, she clashed with the panel over former independent candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’s decision to drop out of the presidential race and endorse Donald Trump. Tarlov dismissed RFK Jr.’s move as nothing more than a political stunt, saying, “There’s nothing genuine about this, it’s not because he’s good-hearted.”
But Jesse Watters quickly pushed back, defending Kennedy as a more authentic and genuine figure compared to other politicians. Co-host Tyrus also chimed in, noting that RFK Jr. sided with Trump because Trump was willing to engage in real discussions about policy—something the left often avoids.
Tyrus went further, suggesting that the two-party system dominating American politics is ripe for disruption. “Do I think there needs to be more candidates when we make a choice? Yeah, I would love to see a four-party system or a three-party system,” he said, echoing a sentiment that’s gaining traction among voters who feel disenfranchised by the current political landscape.
As the 2024 election season heats up, exchanges like the one on *The Five* are likely to become more common, reflecting the deep divisions in American society. But for conservatives like Gutfeld, the message is clear: Trump’s economic record speaks for itself, and no amount of spin from the left will change that.
Catch the fiery exchange between Gutfeld and Tarlov below, and decide for yourself who came out on top.
